I see it like this – unless there’s a cold robbery and home invasion going on, if someone want a lick off you, you’re a lick! There’s no in between, there’s not a choice. You’re going to give up your material possessions and live another day, all the time if someone pushes a weapon to your nostril. But, if you’re in a fair one, you need to defend yourself.
Now, krav maga and the like might be closer to how we learn to disarm weapons at a scalable and learnable curriculum. But, what else can we do and what skills can we learn?
How accurate is someone like Dale Brown? The man is definitely committed to teaching people to survive but fights break out and there needs to be another level of defense.
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- Learn to arm trap and grip break
- Learn to disarm weapons
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What’s good. You guys, thank you for joining me. I’m Johann Francis CSCS and welcome to my show. Ego Killer! It’s right here on this show. We learn that everything we do inside the gym helps us move better outside, outside, in life, where all the obstacles are, where we have ironclad all of our limits inside the gym so that they pay off when we need them on the outside. And one of the more interesting and useful aspects of any type of gym, right? And we talked about a gym being any physical place, where you test your physical limit, it could be temporary. It can be, you know, it can, it can be get a road trail where you’re doing your running or you’re cycling. That’s your gym for the day, anywhere where we could test our physical limits. The beautiful thing about those types of places, about the gym, about borrowed land that we use to test our physical selves.
Some things are only applied there. It’s kind of like chemistry lab. You can’t do the chemistry lab at your house. You need a specific environment to run those tests. You do the same thing with the gym. This is a specific environment. This is a climate and inside of this climate. It’s where we literally acclimatize our body to get used to iron clad. Like I like to put ourselves martial arts occurs in a combination of those two places. It occurs on the real world, but you practice inside your dojo inside your gym, inside your facility, your classroom. Okay. Over the last 15 years, a lot of us have watched places like jujitsu. Gyms become the domain of people learning more mainstream type of martial arts. When I was a kid, it was all about karate. It was all about TaeKwonDo and Han and Ike. And all of these things started to get popular in the early nineties, right? And judo was still very popular and all that. Now it’s more, we went to jujitsu route. We go with the wrestling. We go with the CRA all of these types of self defense. This is we need a gym in a place to practice. Alright, are you guys into this? Where did you guys learn to defend yourselves? Who taught you what to do under Dures. If someone wants to pull up on you and take your, did you learn how to defend yourself adequately enough?
We need to practice those skills. We need to practice those skills. And as I just mentioned, modern day, the gym, the dojo, this is the place where we practice these skills. We have to practice here and apply them on the outside. So there’s no truer place to test the limits of our ego than to work inside the dojo. Of course, you can talk about boxing, kickboxing, Moi Thai. These are martial arts, but they’re not traditional martial arts. There are a whole, there are dozens of traditional martial arts. There’s martial arts from the east. There’s martial arts from the, the Midwest, the the middle east there’s martial arts from, you know, over in Russia. There’s martial arts from all over the place in France. I mean, everybody has a way that we learn to defend ourselves. What do you guys practice? Or what have you learned over the years?
Because I definitely want you guys to become fully equipped in protecting yourselves in self defense. It’s funny when we’re kids we’re playing around, right? I know my cousins used to do this where it is like, yo, if I hit you right here, you’re gonna crumple up into a ball. You’re gonna be wincing and crying. And so we practice on our friends and we walk around. We’re like, yo, hold my arm just like this. And they hold your arm. And then you give them that knuckle right in the, you know, <laugh> on the windpipe and they curl into a ball. Well, that’s cool. But when we get older, we realize this actual defense has to do with incapacity in someone else and keeping yourself really, really safe. And so the idea of self defense, it begins to evolve. What do you guys know about how to defend yourselves?
Are you still doing the thing that your cousins taught you when you were young? Right? Are you still, if we’re women, do we still have the idea that you take those sharp nails and dig them into like the wrists? I remember that was the thing. What do you guys do to defend yourself? Let me know. On the website, I’m curious mainstream, there is a whole ton of martial arts that you can get into to make sure that you’re adequately equipped to defend yourselves. But before we talk about that, I’m gonna give you my three steps. Okay? Now these three steps that I might give you, they might last you 10 years. They might take you a very long time to develop. But the idea is that you get your feet wet and all three of these things in order in some kind of order.
And even if you don’t master the skills, you’re infinitely more prepared. If someone runs up on you and you’re infinitely more prepared to protect people that you love, all right, because there’s more to it than just being able to crumple somebody up real quick. You know, if they try to pull up on you, there’s way more to defending yourself than that. There’s also more to it than learning a single type of martial art that is very specific to only using, you know, your right arm or only, you know, contorting your hand into some type of weaponizing of fist grip. You know, that’s great. And this is good, but we need to apply it broadly. And I’ll, and I’m gonna share three ways that we look at it to apply ourselves, man, woman, youngster, whatever. Okay. Before we do that, I want us to understand one thing.
All right, first off, if there is a cold robbery going down and you happen to be the victim. Okay. And I don’t mean like, if there’s a home invasion, God forbid, and someone’s gonna run into your house and try to steal something when you’re asleep. Maybe you’re, you’re not even there at all. Right? You have different means to defend yourself at that point when your property is at risk and the person doesn’t know that you’re nearby, there’s a whole different set of circumstances going down. However, if someone’s gonna pull up on you and try to take your, try and Rob you. And you’re the lick. You are just going to end up being the lick. Let know <laugh> let know false pretense of machismo, fool you into understanding that you’re going to snatch up a Rob, a robber that sees you as a lick, disarmed them, right?
And they’re gonna be like, oh, sorry. And apologize. No, no, no, no, no. You get someone who’s threatening you with weapons out your face as quickly as you can. Or you get out of their face as quickly as you can. Maybe you attack them in a certain way. If they’re attacking you, of course, but you gotta remember if you’re the lick, you’re just gonna be the lick. And there’s no taking an L. You give someone the material possession that they’re demanding and you live another day. This should just go without saying, right. But if someone’s trying to pull up on you and take your stuff, you give them the stuff. If they have a weapon on them, point blank, period, you protect yourself. You protect your family. However, if this thing does devolve or they don’t have a weapon and it’s time for what we call a fair one, we have to learn to defend ourselves. We have to learn to keep our wits about us. If there’s going to be a fight, okay? The rules of engagement have to be observed. How are you guys with the rules of engagement? Are we able to kind of assess someone’s body language? Are we able to assess what they’re saying? Do we have full command of the area around us? Or are we still going back to what kHz taught us when we were kids? Right? Like yo, just the elbow, right? Between the third and fourth rib, get you out of this situation.
You’re not a lick. All you gotta do is poke ’em right in the, you know, right in the temple, you know, like something like that. If that’s where mind goes to still, then we’re actually, we’re still gonna end up being the victim of something we don’t wanna be. So part of it is gonna be assessing the circumstance, sizing somebody up, learning the distance that you are from them. All of these things matter. What’s in their hands. What’s in your hands. Can you see their hands? Are you able to get into a stance to defend yourself quicker than they are, right? And after we’re able to make all those Mayweather, reque, body mechanical type calculations, then I think we’re in a position to fully be able to defend ourselves globally. It starts with your mindset. It starts with your eyes. It starts with looking in the right place, having an applaud about what you’re saying to defend yourself.
These are all means to defend yourself early. And we acclimate ourselves with that. We do that rather than looking for some like soft spot in the armor of the human body. These things are fine. When we have certain positions that are really advantageous and frankly kind of high percentage, but largely look, if we need the victory and Draymond’s in the corner and he’s wide open, you’re gonna have to throw it to Draymond. But most of the time you’re gonna go to Steph. And what I mean is the high percentage stuff. You only take it. If you take the high percentage stuff, if you got it, if not, you do something, you throw it. Toray on. Look on the corner, on the corner. Anyway. Sports references aside, right? You guys, what do you guys think about how to defend yourself? Do you think that if you had nothing but your car keys in your pocket, you had a lighter on you, would you know how to do the necessary thing to defend yourself?
Because be honest. And this goes back to us having a self defense class here in the gym. I remember a bunch of us had a self defense class. I invited some coaches over and the coaches started to teach us some stuff. And one of the guys showed up in jeans and one of the coaches was like, there you are prepared for a fight pulling up in jeans. And it makes perfect sense, cuz that’s when someone’s gonna pull up on you when you are wearing chinos, right? Not when you’re wearing dry fit and compression under armor, right? Not when you have a pair of brass knuckles in your pocket, even if you’re in an open carry type situation, right? No one who knows that you’re in an open carry situation is gonna challenge you at the open carry level. You’re gonna get taken for a lick when you don’t expect it.
That’s why you’re a lick. So what do we do in those situations? All right. Before I get into my three, I want to tell you guys, all right. I want to tell you guys this think about defense globally and more mainstream right now in terms of what you can learn. You can learn judo, CRA Mo Thai, and you can learn to use your hands inside of boxing. These are scalable curricula that you can find on Google right now, when you’re done with this, listening this to this, you could go out and find that right now and get involved today using KV Maga, right? Going to learn to box and having to spar, right? If you’re, I don’t know, they still offer like karate and TaeKwonDo at the adult level to that extent. But I would say learn some judo or some jujitsu or some rest. Well, some wrestling techniques which can be covered in those other two grappling arts. Right? You have some Sano and some oh I believe wind. She schools out there that can teach you a lot of grappling with striking. And basically that’s what I want you guys to learn off the top. So those are the learnable scalable curricular that are out there.
My man, yeah. I don’t know him, but you, you guys seen him, Detroit, urban survival tactics training Dale brown, the man stands for quite a bit and he talks about his experiences in the past. You guys mess with him. The man is very versed in like real world applications. Because as I understand it from his interviews, he’s been in situations voluntarily, by the way, over the course of many, many years, not just for show where he’s had to put a lot of his practices to the test, he’s done a lot of studying. He’s been inside of situations where he understands the way that people are gonna pull. If they have a right a pistol on him, he understands what they’re gonna look for. Look at when they reach what the mindset is of someone who’s already pulled and is pointing that pistol at someone else.
Right? He understands all the mindset. He’s seen a lot of criminality happen in its full escalation in front of him. So the man clearly notices, he’s talking about now, when you get on the internet right there, and you look at his techniques, there’s one thing. And I’m gonna get into the three in a minute that he, I feel like can spend a little bit more time talking about. But if you’ll notice at the end of all of his PSAs, he’s like, yo, this is gonna increase the way you survive. And this is probably true because you know, stopping the slide of a pistol, definitely look, I never learned that. I never seen anyone do that, but that is definitely going to keep you alive longer. And one of the things that he said that people wanna get all bird about is like, yo, if you get shot, don’t get shot multiple times.
Well, studies prove that if you shoot some, like if you, God forbid you get shot with a pistol, you don’t die from that. Like it takes multiple shots. And so his, it might seem trippy to the average DENIN to be like, don’t get shot multiple times, but it is actually true. It’s kinda like being in a fight. You might get, you’re going to get hurt and hit, right? And if someone attacks you with a knife, for example, just expanding on this point, you’re gonna get hurt. But the idea is not to be incapacitated it’s to defend yourself, it’s to get away and live another day, we confuse this a lot of the times, right? With thinking that you need to be like larger than life to win a fight. And it’s just dumb, frankly, right? We, this is, this is this machismo that doesn’t exist when you actually get into it.
So no matter how big you are, no matter how small you are and look Dale brown, like I love what he stands for, but number one, no matter how big or small you’re gonna have to learn to fight, okay, there has to be another level because his martial arts training and any martial arts training where we’re getting that soft spot, the soft spot in the armor where I’m able to just kind of do the five point exploding Palm technique, right? And pull out your eye, like kill bill. Like that might happen. If you just show me your eye, I’ll pull your eye out. If you’re attacking me. Sure. Right. But what’s going to happen. Even if you probably yank someone’s eye out, like kill bill, what’s gonna happen. The the person who <laugh> is now missing an eye, or, you know, the person who’s pulled up and is the aggressor who is now being defended against your target is gonna get.
They’re gonna wanna engage you even more. And they’re going to escalate the rules of engagement now change, and you have a fight. And so you have to learn to fight. This is when you work inside of boxing and those martial arts inside of Mo Thai, where you learn to hold people with your arms, even if you have gloves on right. Cuz that then becomes sporting and competition. You know, I feel like Dave Dale brown kind of aligns these things as just sport, but learning to do that stuff with gloves on is for sport. But guess what? You’re gonna do it better without gloves. So when you have, I’m just saying, and when you have the process to learn, to fight, to size someone up to look at range and distance and to attack with different means and different ranges, you are in a fight and learning how to counter grapple and to scramble and to incapacitate limbs, you are in a fight.
And so it’s important to learn boxing and white tie and even kickboxing, even though you might never leg kick someone, you might have to do that in a fight. So number one, right in how we learn to defend ourselves straight up is we have to learn confrontation and fighting. You have to learn your CRA. You have to learn to kick someone, boom, right where the sun ain’t shining much in order to get away and live, to fight, to defend, to love another day. All right. So number one is gonna be, we have to learn to fight and that’s where we can enter the gym for many months at a time for years, and actually learn to do that going on in number two and how we can learn to defend ourselves. Right? And not just be a lick is hand trapping and breaking, grips, learning those techniques in the vein of other martial arts, right?
Other Chinese traditional martial arts inside. I believe of judo learning to break, grips, right? Or grapple for wrists and control the wrists. Even in Mo Thai. When you’re standing, learning to break grips and trap, arms is vitally important because in the context of a fight, you need to improve position. Okay? When there’s a struggle going on, you need to be able to improve position, which requires you to break, grips to trap arms, and to get your body in advantageous positions, sport or fighting gives you the ability to do all that competitive fighting gives you the ability to do all that. You are constantly breaking, grips and arm trapping inside of boxing, inside of, of, of tie fighting inside of, of judo. And in the course of a fighting that scramble, you have to learn to break grips the last piece. And this is where I’m at in my training is learning to disarm weapons.
So I won’t go too deep into the idea of how to do it, but the idea of disarming weapons should come most in the latter. Part of your training. When you’re learning to defend yourself, this is the 1% chance that you’ll ever come across this in your life. But it is important to like mitigate all risk when it comes to defending yourselves and the people that you care about. A lot of this will have to do with using certain type of weapons and it’ll have to be practicing and learning the ins and outs of certain type of weapons, right? But learning how to do that, learning how to know if someone’s reaching, if someone’s holding in front of you, if you’re not in an OpenCar type situation is vitally important. Reading your surroundings, reading facial expressions and aggression, noticing aggression, noticing your own aggression. These are all things that we learn when we have to defend ourselves.
So number one will be straight up learning to fight. That includes sparring. You must learn these skills. Doesn’t matter how big you are, how small you are. There’s plenty of gyms where they’re big and small working together and compensating inside that controlled room to learn to fight. Number two is gonna be hand trapping, learn to break, grips, hand traps, and manipulate small joints of toes, wrists, ankles, fingers, and break grips quickly, quickly, and then reengage or disengage from the fight. And lastly, we apply all of these things to disarming pistols. I mean, I mean, the list goes on. I mean, there are folks that’ll teach you how to disarm swords, right? Long bladed, long range, blunt weapons. And this becomes vitally important for us in the depths of our training so that we can learn to defend ourselves. So forget what your cousin taught. You we’ll remember the mindset, but forget the technique.
We’re gonna evolve past that because yo, if you hit somebody in the leg with that dead leg thing and it don’t work, you are in for a fight. <Laugh> all right. You’re in for a fight. And remember, that’s one of the first rules that we’re gonna learn is how to fight. So let me know what you guys do to defend yourself or to practice how to offend yourself, go to the website, fill out the form. Let me know. If you like the episode, go to apple podcast, please, and do the five stars. I’ll send you a free gift if you do all right, I’m gonna stop there. And Hey, until the next one.